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"Thiruvasagam" in "Symphony Style" - Amazing attempt by Raja

Topic started by Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254) on Wed Oct 10 18:27:06 EDT 2001.
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http://www.dinakaran.com/daily/2001/Oct/11/cinema/cineNews1.html

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• From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170) on: Mon Oct 22 21:00:25 EDT 2001
  
  i doubt that the female chorus is translation of the slokam.
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76) on: Mon Oct 22 23:54:04 EDT 2001
  
  it is a rough translation - not a leteral one. i dont think it's from ashtapathi; i think it's from soundarya lahari.
  
  
• From: banumathy .k. (@ 61.11.83.6) on: Tue Oct 23 23:35:34 EDT 2001
  
  Maestro Ilayaraja has tuned so many cinesongs
  with sanskrit slokas as "virutham"/ "Dyana Slokam"
  For Example: AVIGnana nandasmihira in "Nathiiyil Aadum Poovanam (Kaathal Oviam), Sivaha sakthya in
  "Janani Janani" (Adi Sankarar). Let Raja tune TiruVasagam also in the same style.If it is tuned with WCM then that will become more or less a Dabbankuthu. But our Ilayaraaja can make even make dabbankuthu to reach millions. Hats off to Isaignani
  
  
• From: pardhu (@ 202.54.26.125) on: Wed Oct 24 02:15:24 EDT 2001
  
  Kudos to the most innovative music director the Southern has
  ever produced. I am too fascinated over this new
  vanture of Isainyaani. Long live Raja and his music.
  All the best for a great composition. I am
  sure Raja is going to crack it like anything.
  This is a real good news for all the musiclovers.
  
  
• From: Jeeva (@ 172.173.186.233) on: Wed Oct 24 03:39:10 EDT 2001
  
  I think irrespective the target he could reach, he should produce whatever he can deliver constructively to the society. It is then left to the society to take it and beneify from it. If anyone makes a geniune and sincere attempt to understand he/she would benefit from it.
  I think IR should eventually reduce scoring hopeless film numbers and concentrate on constructive albums like this with out caring for the reach of it.
  
  
• From: Anand (@ 203.117.33.24) on: Wed Oct 24 09:57:14 EDT 2001
  
  To Karthik:
  
  I do not know why you brought in this ‘Iyer’ related statement here. But having done so, some things are to be made very clear.
  
  This note is nothing against the ‘Brahmin’ community. Just a collection of related facts.
  The reason is to reduce your worry that the burden of propping up Ilayaraaja’s ‘Thiruvasagam’ effort might fall on your community’s shoulders.
  
  1. Thiruvasaagam is one of the ‘Thamizh Thirumurai’. As you might be aware, there are twelve such treasures collectively called ‘Panniru Thirumurai’. As such it belongs to all Tamil Hindus. It is related to Brahmin community because one sect (Iyer not Iyengar) worship Sivaperumaan. That’s it. There is a sea of difference between this and your comparision with Gayathri Manthiram.
  
  2. It is indeed a moving experience to listen to ‘Thamizh Thirumurai’, in most of the temples in the early morning. Off late there have been some popularity among the ‘Saiva Samayam’ related middle class pockets – Thanks to cassettes from Dharmapuram Swaminathan (Dheiveega BhAvam / Ucharippu !!) and others.
  
  3. At this point it is important to mention the History, that Brahmin Community (not the present century – old time) had been responsible to drive away ‘Thamizh Thirumurai’ from the centrestage it enjoyed in a Hindu Tamilian’s life. Through a systematic onslaught, Sanskrit was imposed into Tamil Temples, Tamil Marriages, Grehapravesam, Ganabathi Homam and other poojas / functions. Also, everyone very well knows the fate of Tamil Classic Music (in Tamil Nadu !!)….
  
  The last point means that your worry is like Pakistan joining the coalition against terrorism. (I am also worried that after twenty years, you may state that Ilayaraaja himself belongs to your community – because he did this ‘Thiruvasagam’ music.)
  
  No Hardfeelings please.
  
  
• From: S (@ 208.24.179.129) on: Wed Oct 24 10:21:10 EDT 2001
  
  >> I think IR should eventually reduce scoring hopeless film numbers and concentrate on constructive albums like this with out caring for the reach of it.
  
  and who will fund such projects?
  
  
• From: uv2 (@ 63.225.17.34) on: Fri Oct 26 17:56:45 EDT 2001
  
  S,
  Good Q...hope someone does, otherwise we as audiences will miss the great works of this GENIUS.
  
  
• From: Sarita (@ 202.156.2.134) on: Wed Oct 31 23:03:40 EST 2001
  
  total insult thiruvasagam symphony style?....probably doing all this for attention. if it's a success the credit should go to his 'hungarian' orchestra
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126) on: Thu Nov 1 01:10:34 EST 2001
  
  now sarita, i have two questions
  
  1) "total insult" -- for whom? to Symphony style (or) thiruvasagam (or) to you?
  
  2) "if it's a success the credit should go to his 'hungarian' orchestra" -- so when it becomes success the "total insult" is wiped out right.
  
  IMHO, your concern would be geniune if the final outcome kills/alters the mood,meaning,language,accent of thiruvasagam. We just cannot pass any judgement before anything happens.
  
  
  
• From: :-| (@ 128.107.253.39) on: Thu Nov 1 03:30:35 EST 2001
  
  Kupps,
  it's better u neglect such idiots...
  
  
• From: gd (@ 210.210.33.135) on: Thu Mar 28 13:22:07 EST 2002
  
  want more details about the project
  
  
• From: cherankayal (@ 203.177.60.82) on: Tue May 6 20:35:09 EDT 2003
  
  Check out the website guys...
  www.thiruvasakaminsymphony.com
  
  
• From: cherankayal (@ 203.177.60.82) on: Tue May 6 20:37:39 EDT 2003
  
  Anbu Nanbargaley...
  Kindly Pass this on to your friends..this is the official press release from the producers of the thiruvasagam in symphony...
  
  Press Release
  From: TAMIL MAIYAM, 1/45-1A Mount Poonamallee High Road, St.Thomas Mount, Chennai 600016.
  Please forward this Press Release to your friends, contacts, known web-magazines, email discussion groups and other such information dissemination networks. Please visit our website: www.thiruvasakaminsymphony.com
  Rev.Jegath Gaspar- For TAMIL MAIYAM
  Thiruvasakam in Symphonic Fantasy – A unique musical adventure by Maestro Ilaiyaraaja.
  It takes the musical genius of Maestro Ilaiyaraaja to concatenate the devotional spiritualism contained in the classical Tamil poetry of Thiruvasakam with the ethereal harmony of the most accomplished of Western classical music composers. This challenging enterprise has never before been attempted in the realms of Tamil music.
  The world’s first premiere of a musical recording, combining the cadenza of this inspirational Tamil spiritual literature supported by delectable carnatic music and accompanied by the famed Hungarian Symphony Orchestra, is getting ready for the enjoyment of aficionados and music lovers in all parts of the world.
  Tamil Maiyam, a not for profit charitable organisation is collaborating with Mr Ilaiyaraaja in promoting this ground breaking venture to further the arts and culture of the Tamil people.Tamil Maiyam is also committed to serious research on Tamil language and society. It is headquartered at Chennai, India.
  At present Mr Ilaiyaraaja is working on a major aspect of this project to write the score for selected songs from the Thiruvasakam in the Western symphonic format. He is the only Asian so far to have been accorded the rare honour of performing a symphony at the Royal Albert Hall, London with the London Philharmonic Orchestra. There is no doubt that this Thiruvasakam in Symphonic Fantasy will be the ultimate fulfillment of his dream to coalesce the best of Tamil and Western classical music to the discernment of the modern international stage. Having composed more than 5000 songs, scored music for 825 movies and conducted countless number of concerts this project according to him has been ‘his prayer’ for a long time.
  This is perhaps the first ever attempt to write Indian music using Western symphonic language without compromising the much celebrated beauty and aesthetics of the former. It cannot be just fusion, for that will be crude. It will be an audacious synthesis that draws on the best of both systems; thus producing a celebration of creativity. Why does Mr. Ilaiyaraaja want to attempt something as complex as this undertaking? It is like asking why men want to climb Mount Everest or walk to the North Pole. It is a challenge for heroes and great human beings to do the extra-ordinary and Ilaiyaraaja wants to leave his musical landmark for generations of Tamils to come. It is indeed refreshing, he says, that a Catholic Priest like Fr Jegath Gaspar Raj is in the front line to internationally promote Thiruvasakam in this seminal format.
  The Thiruvasakam has been chosen for this eclectic project because of its spiritual depth and poetic beauty. No one can fail to be stirred by its profound emotions while reading the verses. They have touched for generations the hearts and minds of the vast majority of Tamil speaking people. Has the longing of the human soul for purity, peace and divine fellowship ever found worthier expression?
  A number of leading directors of music and international musicians have paid their tributes to Mr Ilaiyaraaja and sent their best wishes for the success of this project. His Excellency, The Prime Minister of India has described it as noteworthy and sent his best wishes.
  The music album is due to be released on October 18, 2003 at a formal function in Chennai. For more details please visit : www.thiruvasakaminsymphony.com or Contact Rev. Jegath Gaspar at 00-91-44-31041071 or 00 91 9840378334 or 00 91 44 55873355. Email : thiruvasakam@hotmail.com
  May 05, 2003
  Press Release by: Tamil Maiyam, 12/45-1A Mount-Poonamallee High Road, St.Thomas Mount, Chennai 600 016.
  
  
• From: S SUBRAMANIAN (@ 203.101.36.140) on: Sat Mar 13 06:00:08 EST 2004
  
  Swaminathan Dharmapuram has done wonderful work. Ilaya raja and others should follow
  
  
• From: S SUBRAMANIAN (@ 203.101.36.140) on: Sat Mar 13 06:00:18 EST 2004
  
  Swaminathan Dharmapuram has done wonderful work. Ilaya raja and others should follow
  
  
• From: saikumar-kabistalam (@ 202.9.189.34) on: Thu Mar 25 12:26:44 EST 2004
  
  Namaskaram elayaraja this attempt will be giving
  excellent reception in this world
  " thiruvasagathukku orugar oru vasagathukkum orukar"
  
  
• From: mariese (@ 219.92.114.135) on: Tue Jun 15 21:45:03 EDT 2004
  
  ulagathirkku pitha-kadavul. Kadavulukku pitha-isai.
  Isaikku pitha- isai nyani.
  
  isai nyani is the most crasiest person in the world.
  
  
  
• From: mariese (@ 219.92.114.135) on: Tue Jun 15 21:45:14 EDT 2004
  
  ulagathirkku pitha-kadavul. Kadavulukku pitha-isai.
  Isaikku pitha- isai nyani.
  
  isai nyani is the most crasiest person in the world.
  
  
  
• From: udayamanagar saravanan (@ 219.65.123.31) on: Wed Aug 18 06:15:14 EDT 2004
  
  elayarajas amazing attempt all indians shoud have
  proud of this remarkable touch
  
  
• From: k.suresh (@ 219.65.112.19) on: Fri Nov 26 07:12:34 EST 2004
  
  This is going to be the greatest one of raja
  every one in the whole universe is going to
  enjoy this album,let ramana maharshi bless him
  and every one,,,,,,,,
  
  

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