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IR's new albums!

Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.

Check the IR reviews page

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• From: aruvi (@ dax04.slip.yorku.ca) on: Wed Jan 5 13:53:10 EST 2000
  
  MS
  I hear you!:-).
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Wed Jan 5 14:19:57 EST 2000
  
  I bet you would :-) I had the same feeling when I hear Arundhathi's version of "azaga..kaLLazaga.." chitra's version is indeed much more beautiful than arundhathi's..
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Wed Jan 5 14:20:59 EST 2000
  
  typo hear - heard
  
  
• From: ¶Visiri (@ bonobo.tesserae.com) on: Wed Jan 5 15:32:51 EST 2000
  
  

  Check this ad in the CD cover of Hey Ram! It says Moondru sirappu miguntha america isai kalaingarkalai vida isai ulgin Maestro Maestro thaan yena Ilayarajavin thiramaiyai velippadutha 7 super hit paadalkaludan viraivil varugirathu… http://www.ramiy.com/images/heyram/heyram.htm

  
  
• From: ¶Visiri (@ bonobo.tesserae.com) on: Wed Jan 5 15:35:22 EST 2000
  
  http://www.ramiy.com/images/heyram/heyram.htm
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Wed Jan 5 17:01:16 EST 2000
  
  aaha...padikkavE oru kickaa thaan irukku..padam vanthappuram meedhi pEsalaam ;-)
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ dax04.slip.yorku.ca) on: Wed Jan 5 17:05:36 EST 2000
  
  I was thinking. IR-Fazil combination-la vantha music-la, KN seems to be the most unpopular. Starting from the first movie they did together, the music was always a treat. KN sure doesn't live upto my expectations. I wonder how the movie has come out. Hope it's as good as 'Poove Poochudavaa', which is my favourite from Fazil, so far.
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Wed Jan 5 17:10:56 EST 2000
  
  avasara dabEl aruvi..Let us see what the junta has to say..IMO neenga songs "i" thirumba oru thadavi kEtkalaam..the songs are malluish..
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Wed Jan 5 17:15:07 EST 2000
  
  avasara dabEl? :-)))) MS, itha kEttu yukam Achchu. thanks for such "excellent" slangs :-))
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ dax04.slip.yorku.ca) on: Wed Jan 5 17:23:55 EST 2000
  
  Naan ithuvara kEdathE illa, translation please? MS, I was talking about the music. Of course, if the movie comes out well, that's a different thing. Take the example of Sethu. I love the screenplay and the acting. Everyone did their part well. I pray KN will come out like that. Anyways, please, untha slang-ukku arthathai sollidunga. It might come in handy:-)
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ dax04.slip.yorku.ca) on: Wed Jan 5 17:24:46 EST 2000
  
  Dabel? Juntha? Whaah???:-)
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Wed Jan 5 17:41:42 EST 2000
  
  aruvi:
  
  avasar padEl = avasara padaatheenga = avasara dabEl..okyaa ?
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ dax04.slip.yorku.ca) on: Wed Jan 5 17:47:15 EST 2000
  
  so 'Pad'el becomes 'dap'el. Kavithuvam!:-) Which brings me to another point. Did anyone notice that the lyrics in KN are very decent. I wonder why other directors don't insist that IR should compel the song writers to give good lyrics, catchy lyrics. All Fazil films have decent lyrics in the songs. That's one thing that's missing in a lot of IR albums
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.112) on: Wed Jan 5 17:54:08 EST 2000
  
  lyrics are decent but banal.
  
  
• From: ¶Visiri (@ bonobo.tesserae.com) on: Wed Jan 5 18:05:05 EST 2000
  
  

  I think its IR's mistake… `cause he is not giving enough time to the lyricists! Even VM happened to write for

  I think its IR's mistake... `cause he is not giving enough time to the lyricists! Even VM happened to write for IR, he will also mess up with maama, machaan stuff! He shouldn't expect lyricists to write the same express way he composes! Pesaama we will invent a computer to write for him!J

  
  
• From: aruLarasan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Wed Jan 5 18:21:23 EST 2000
  
  aruvi,
  
  please, point out any recent songs (last two or three years) from IR's movie which has lousy lyrics (discounting OramjAram ushArayyA ushAru - which i happen to like, but that's irrelevant here). of late, (from around the days of siRaichchAlai and for the most part of this decade - it is not yet over :-) ) only IR's song have decent lyrics. no flames please, (and NOM) but chummA criticize paNNanumEnnu criticize paNNak kUdAthu.
  
  
• From: ¶Visiri (@ bonobo.tesserae.com) on: Wed Jan 5 18:53:48 EST 2000
  
  

  Arularasan Here is the list... Sittu Parakkuthu...[NILAVEY MUGAM KAATTU] Ippathaan Vayasukku...[SENTHOORAM] Kutti Nalla Kutti...[ANNAN] Aalaana Naalmudhala...[KAADHAL KAVITHAI] Jingalaara and almost all songs from RAJASTAN Do u think all these songs are Ilakkiyams?J

  
  
• From: MSK (@ marimuth-nt.qualcomm.com) on: Wed Jan 5 19:10:47 EST 2000
  
  Aruvi,
  
  u are the one that said "out of the 4000 + songs of IR only a few are evergreen" !!!! Right .?. u have tremendous humor..( ROmba nalla comedy panreenga.. ) but i guess ur intention was just to make fun !!! Nice try..
  
  As for lyrics, most recent IR albums are decent if not excellent .. the quality of lyrics has a lot to do with present gen taste and the trend.. can't expect good lyrics when Oorvasi/pharmacy and other VM algorithmic paethels become a major hit
  
  Can't blame lyric writers as well - they feed what the masses want..
  
  Cheers
  MSK
  
  
  Arul,
  
  Same here.. even though i hated Oranjarum lyrics, it's one of my recent favs ( just for the nice tune and SPB's Golden voice )
  
  
• From: Srikanth (@ 216.32.18.74) on: Wed Jan 5 19:21:56 EST 2000
  
  I feel everything is due to writing music in mind, since they are so much structured, he is not ready to change the tune a little for the lyric. Actually all the Other MDs co-operate with the writer. There are many songs with abs(lousy) lyrics, Jinaku Janaku...oye lala .....lovuna lovu..maneenna stove....we can dig more.
  
  
• From: neruppu (@ 129.137.229.90) on: Wed Jan 5 19:41:20 EST 2000
  
  "out of the 4000 + songs of IR only a few are evergreen" !!! - Just missed! konja naal munnadi solli irundha "best joke of millenium" award kidaichirukkume!
  oru bad tamil pazhamozhi gnyabagathukku varuthu- "yaana paduththa.."
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ odo03.slip.yorku.ca) on: Wed Jan 5 20:00:51 EST 2000
  
  To Arul/MSK
  
  First of all, Arul, naan onrum chumma criticize pannanum elluthala. Why should I? I am not a journalist. This is enta opinion, and quite frankly, the opinion of a lot of people. I have felt like this ever since I could evaluate how good an album is. IR oru interview answered as though it wasn't his problem how the lyrics came. So I can understand why some songs are like that. But then, did I mention in my posting that I was referring to the last two years. I don't think so. Sure there movies like 'Siraichaalai' and 'KM'. Did you read the newspaper articles that came around then. He took 'special' effort for the lyrics. Look at the work that 'pazhanibharathi' produced. It's excellent. Even the 'aiyaa veedu' song was presented well and therefore, I liked the song. Bhavadharani's version of 'Ennai Thaalaata' was only bearable because of its good lyrics. Why doesn't he take these 'special' akkarais on all his projects. What is the point of quick work if quality is sacrificed? It's his job to make sure that all the aspects of the song is appealing. There are lots of songs of Raja's that would have done well if he had focused on the lyrics and there presentation. The worst this year was 'rajasthan'. I know that there are fans who would listen to IR's songs just for the fact that they are hardcore fans and that they would overlook this matter. I am not one of them. When I listen to a song, I like to have good and catchy lyrics.
  
  Next MSK
  MY intention was not to make fun. But I suppose that your intention is to make any statement that doesn't favour IR as comical. I had read that he composed for about 4000 songs in the 'heyram' site. So I was wondering why such a few number of his songs seem to be popular among the masses. Why don't you check all those sites up there that have IR's songs and you will see the number of same songs. This sounds like making fun to you? Sorry, I wasn't trying and would never do that to IR. I am not saying this so to humour anyone but because I am one of his fans.But your assumption sure is funny(NOM). I am glad to have given you something to laugh about.
  
  Why do you say that you can't except good lyrics when Urvashy becomes a big hit. Didn't 'Rukkumani vandi varuthu' and the likes became big hits in the 80's. How about 'something something' and the likes. 'Urvashi' had the necessary ingredients to make it a hit. And it sure wasn't vulgar. It was a fun song. Vairamuthu's algorithmic paethals became hits because they were presented well.
  
  Lastly, the lyricists work under the composer. They give what the composer wants. It's no use saying that it's the publics fault. Who says that they sell what we want. We buy what they sell. Initially, it is upto them to make a good product. If they think that the public wants something and give junk, it is their fault.
  
  Cheers
  aruvi
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ odo03.slip.yorku.ca) on: Wed Jan 5 20:23:52 EST 2000
  
  nerruppu
  Hey,
  "out of the 4000 + songs of IR only a few are evergreen"
  Maybe I was misunderstood. Look at it like this. IR composed 4000 songs + and most sites have around 200+ average songs. A lot of the songs are repeated. Therefore, a lot of people have similar favourites of IR. When I wrote a 'few are evergreens' I meant it like that. Out of thousands, only hundreds are popular.
  
  Pani vilum malarvanam
  Ithu oru pon maalai pozhuthu
  amma enru
  Nilaave...and 100s more are favourites of a lot of people.
  
  My personal favourites of IR are not in that list.
  I could list more then a hundred of my own personal favourite. But, again, quite a number of those may even be the favourite of others(If they really, really like Chithra's voice:-)). Again, even if you take a public survey or whatever and ask them what their 10 favourite songs are, lots of lists will have the same songs. Even musicians here, who do tamil songs on stage, repeat songs from one program to another because of it's popularity. What does this mean? That there are certain songs of IR's that are very popular. I mean, I hear you guys all talking about 'Pani vizhum malarvanam' and how great it is. You talk about 'Anthi maalai' song and all that. But you all seem to be aware of these songs. What about the other songs?
  
  How can you all think my statement is funny? I wrote it because it's something to think about. Look at the quantity of the number. What happenned to all the other songs? You all seem to think it's funny but if I were to ask you to tell me what your favourite songs from IR are suddenly, I bet a large percentage will have the same songs. So I don't think there is anything funny in my statement. I was reflecting on how much IR must have worked and how easy things don't go the right way. And you people think it's funny. That's funny.
  
  Nerruppu,
  Thanks for the award. When's the function? And is the cash prize as well, cuz that's the only way I will come to recieve it:-)
  
  
  
  

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