Topic started by Skeptical (@ 152.163.206.201) on Sun Feb 11 13:48:01 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
Often, I bacame part of discussions involving the mastery of Ilayaraja. Die hards claimed he could take Hollywood "by storm". I was a bit skeptical. I couldn't picture Bruce Willis or Anne Heche or Dustin Hoffman mouthing a lilting English hit with Tamil overtones as they floated down the Colorado River in a canoe with flowers all around them and the hero rescues the pretty little heroine from the gaping jaws of a vicious rattlesnake. Can someone take this further and expand? Assume Ilayaraja WANTS to make it in Hollywood.
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- From: !!!!! (@ 68.77.14.73)
on: Tue Jul 22 18:40:31 EDT 2003
somebody thinks Matrix has good music./ First of all, did it need any frickin music at all? I hope they banish Matrix 2. The music for such movies incl. Fast Furious type crap are done by using template stuff. no creativity, just some random computer compositions. IR doing such things like Matrix: I am sure he would give up his career and hang his hat.
Paran, porumai saar. i am not ready yet ;---)
- From: !!!!! (@ 68.77.14.73)
on: Tue Jul 22 23:30:31 EDT 2003
I got to get hold of road to perdition and nayakan. this is inneresting!
- From: OISG (@ 195.229.241.231)
on: Wed Jul 23 00:11:12 EDT 2003
It is all getting into pattern.
Stage 1 : Why Spielberg should use IR (Spielberg creativity)
Stage 2. Why he doesn t call IR despite (IR s creatvity )
Stage 3 : Spielberg fails to turn up at Prasad for the nth time.(Reality)
Stage 4 : Why IR does not need Spielberg when creates great BGM for Ramana(futility)
Stage 5 :Why Spielberg is not a great director and makes Dinosar movies for the mentally challenged Americans (vanity)
- From: IR baaasssssttttaaaaaarrrrddddd (@ 203.195.195.242)
on: Wed Jul 23 01:57:33 EDT 2003
ho boy
this thread is a biggest joke in music industry that IR is worth only composing for rural folk songs and u say spielberg hey u all have become mad enem ARR HJ not worth composing foreign films n that IR who is not even half of ARR HJ put togetther IR is a AASSHHHHOOOLEEEEEE u fans are AAAAASSSSSSSHHHHOOOOOLLLLLEEEEEE square.
- From: ARR baaasssssttttaaaaaarrrrddddd (@ 65.161.65.104)
on: Wed Jul 23 02:30:02 EDT 2003
And you are a matha fuker.
Now swallow that!
- From: Whatever (@ 203.87.140.4)
on: Wed Jul 23 08:06:25 EDT 2003
Ramki, I am not conversant with classical western music. Pardon my ignorance. I will try to get my hands on some Mendelssohn who has inspired IR - and the Hollywood MDs - in similar fashion.
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Wed Jul 23 09:24:52 EDT 2003
Rajasaranam!!
The chasing scene in 100th naal and Amaithipadai were too different but bought an eery and scary feeling in 2 different ways!!. So I think IR could do the job, The Music will surely stand testimony if it happens.
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Wed Jul 23 09:26:18 EDT 2003
To !!!!
Probably you dont know what Matrix is? or you surely dont understand the concept? or You dont understand Music
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.132.238)
on: Wed Jul 23 15:58:32 EDT 2003
MusicIsLife,
yeah sure. ive got a couple of chasing sequence BGMs, which i ripped off frm the movies like Amithi padai, kizhakkum merkum, priya and paadum paravaigal. when i listened to them i was dumbstruck by way IR has treated them. i ve got no words to explain . and god amaithi padai that flute piece was excellent and listen to paadum paravaigal wowwwwwwww!!! no words. sure it made me rethink my own statement - can IR deliver to HW. he is god man he'll redefine the whole HW music industry if given a chance.
and abt matrix to !!!!
r u in Zion till now?? man that too is matrix get out of zion and come to the real world.
IR is the neo of music world.
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Wed Jul 23 16:34:09 EDT 2003
Rajasaranam,
I am in the real world for a change..
Yeah, i have the movies in DVD.. mesmerizing isnt it... Nice to know that you have similar tastes in BGM with specifics. For that reason and matter of fact only a few people thought in sync with me.. Gr8 to know that...
IR is MUSIC as V said, He is NEO and everything to me, I surely have a soft corner for him.
My friend who did the Music for Naalai, he is a fan of IR.. goes in length explaining abt how IR could think. Sandeep chowta is (atleast was) also a good friend of my friend who acted in Naalai, bad thing the movie never got released.
I do appreciate and listen to everybody's music without bias..
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.132.238)
on: Wed Jul 23 17:05:50 EDT 2003
hi MIL,
good to hear that we v similar tastes. BTW iam biased slightly towards IR but still like many other MDs including ARR.but i cant equate anybody with IR.
i too hav a friend who is a singer he comes out with new facts abt IR every other day. once when we were talking abt IRs visualization of a scene - he explained to me that in the song senthaalam poovil just b4 the lyrics 'valainthu nelinthu pogum paadhai'IR had visaulized/related that to as a snake and used magudi at that place.when he played me and made me listen to it i was astonished and in the second saranam IRs portrays a mood of travelling to correlate with the lyrics 'alagu mugintha rajakumari' and again at 3rd saranam the mood he gives us is spring season to correlate with 'ilaya paruvam malaiyil'.
he concluded with saying that if they had never picturised the song. all of us wud hav got a better visual in our minds only by listening to that song with our eyes closed.and music wud ve spoken to us even if the lyrics were not there.
my bias towards IR is rightly justified isnt it????
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.132.238)
on: Wed Jul 23 17:25:50 EDT 2003
MIL,
iam giving u paragraph frm an article on IR.
" arpamana katchigalukku ivar ivallavu siramapattu yen virivaaga isaiamaikiraar?" endru athisayikiraar Rajavin nanbar bombai isaiamaipaalar Chandavarkar. "naan parisothanaigal seithu parkiren" engiraar Raja. antha muranpattukku ithuthan badhil. thiraiyil oodum katchigalukkalla. avai than manakannil thotruvikkum katchigalukkuthan isaiamaikirar. katchiyin sirumai isaiyaal perumaipaduthapadugirathu. isaiyin perumai katchiyaal sirumaipaduthapadugirathu. paadalgalai poruthavarai, kathai, katchiamaippu patri therinthu kondu avatrai isai padimagal akkugiraar Raja. ivaaru oliyin kavithai ezhuthapattapin athan parimaanathai etti pidikka muidiyaamal sollin kavithai thadumarugirathu. isai padimangallukku idookodukka mudiyaamal katchipadimangal thotru vilugirathu.
malangalum kuppaigalum saagavaram peruvathu ipapdithaan endru naam vilangi kollalaam.
hope u enjoyed the tamizh.
- From: xml (@ 128.148.68.57)
on: Wed Jul 23 17:36:12 EDT 2003
Are you taking about the song sollividu vallinilave song and BGM of amaidipadai. It is by KR.Since IR left for stmphony KR did amaithipadai,uzhaipali,kalaingan etc..
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Wed Jul 23 17:59:57 EDT 2003
Rajasaranam,
I surely would be more eager to listen to IR than anybody else.. that is my Soft-Corner for IR, ie. my enthusiasm will be more for IR than anybody else, that is my Bias..
But i will not be a person who will say that this album sucks or use harsh words against any MD coz, it is their preference. If you see my posts, it will be clear that it is MY OPINION.. probably i might be wrong and missing the nuances, so you people could help me out.. and that is welcome.
Mature opinions are good, like V's post, Kiru's post & you. If i dont like the discussions I surely dont intervene, just have fun and enjoy the posts... like somebody really made me laugh about beats and dhandanaka (a reply to post by Dinesh)..
Thanks by the way.
XML: bgm of Amaithipadai was done by IR.. You could correct me if I am wrong.
The song RS is mentioning is from the movie with Rajni and Sarathbabu.. Senthalam poovil from Mullum Malarum
RS:
I loved UTHIRIPOOKAL bgm and MR first movie (it was kannada) with balumahendra as camera man.. Anil kapoor in the lead, you should watch the movie... it is a marvel..
Movie is Pallavi Anu Pallavi: what a correlated music and the BM photography
- From: selva (@ 172.190.161.171)
on: Wed Jul 23 19:38:50 EDT 2003
Rajasaranam,
"ive got a couple of chasing sequence BGMs, which i ripped off frm the movies like Amithi padai, kizhakkum merkum, priya and paadum paravaigal. when i listened to them"
Can you tell me how to rip off BGMs from DVDs? Not that I can't figure this out for myself, but if you already have the knowledge, share it and I'll save time for better purpose. There are many sequences that I would like to possess. There is a piece in Ramana, post-deepavali-building collapse!!
- From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232)
on: Wed Jul 23 21:10:04 EDT 2003
Selva/Rajasaranam, its a very good point. Please open this as new thread. Pl cover software/Hardware requirement, methodology etc. If someone give the ripped version as audio sample, that would be good to judge the quality of output.
- From: xml (@ 128.148.68.110)
on: Wed Jul 23 21:23:03 EDT 2003
In one interview KR told he only composed the song solli vidu velli nilave. That time IR was in london. In news also said in uzhaipali,amaithipadai,kalaingan KR did more work.
- From: Mumbai Ramki (@ 203.193.152.205)
on: Wed Jul 23 23:35:21 EDT 2003
XMl ,
along with that in Ponnumani ,Siarichalai BGM KER did soem compostiosn !!!
- From: rajasaranam (@ 210.214.128.9)
on: Thu Jul 24 10:07:44 EDT 2003
selva,
there r many softwares available in the market to rip off songs or music frm vcds. as iam in india and DVds r not much in market iam using vcds only in my PC. the software i used to rip off was VCD CUT. u can also do a search in google to get some freebies/shareware of similar softwares.
as iam ripping it off frm VCDs the quality of output is not equivalent to DVDs.
MIL,
iam not able to get hold of that movie. ill try anyhow. i heard the beggining of the song naguva nayana [ the song was lifted for the AD Idea cellular ] . it was gr8.
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Thu Jul 24 12:13:28 EDT 2003
Rajasaranam!!
Yup, that is a gr8 piece..
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 170.146.91.6)
on: Thu Jul 24 12:14:54 EDT 2003
Selva,
I can get you software which rip off DVD's.. but i dont know how you extract specific portions..
Let me ask and get back...
- From: prabhudas (@ 140.251.171.216)
on: Thu Jul 24 23:39:03 EDT 2003
Dear IR fans,
I have just uploaded the BGM clips from Amman Kovil Kizhakkale about 24 files ( man.. what a pain to U/L to the coolgoose.com), in my openion, the movie was less than ordinary, however the songs as every one knows were one of the nicest of IR. Listen to the BGM clips of this movie how IR has done some excellent job to movies of this sort also.
I really need some body who can volunteer to host some of the greatest BGMs of IR movies in a public domain( entire Mouna Raagam movie , Vanna Vanna Pookkal, Murattu kaazhai, Idayam, Chinna Thambi, Sigappu Rojakkal, Karagaattakaaran, Ullasa Paravaigal, Kazhugu, Moonram pirai etc...)to send me e mail, so I can send them a copy on CD.
I really do not find time to U/L to coogoose or uther sites ( I was just trying to see how long it takes to U/L in coolgoose)
Any other suggestions are welcome, let me know about the quality too.
Prabhudas
- From: prabhudas (@ 140.251.171.216)
on: Thu Jul 24 23:41:40 EDT 2003
Selva,
To edit or slice particular clippings for BGM, try Womble's MPEG2VCR, I can upload to any ftp server sites if vailable ( It is expensive), I will write details if somebody needs info
Prabhudas
- From: prabhudas (@ 140.251.171.216)
on: Thu Jul 24 23:44:19 EDT 2003
Try This link
http://www.coolgoose.com/go/music?user=blimbos&go=1
Prabhudas
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