Topic started by Fliflo (@ 130.203.161.190) on Wed May 23 08:47:18 EDT 2001.
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- From: Sridhar (@ 203.200.15.20)
on: Mon Jun 4 14:17:54 EDT 2001
Athi"
"Despite great music by IR for MR" is what I said.
And you say: "Don't make such baseless statements like IR had never given any great music for MR."
What did you read?
FYI, Dhalapathi was a flop despite having Rajni.
Agni did not run bcoz of IR's music but bcoz of a great story.
:-) The nagarjuna film dubbed was "Ithayathai thirudathe" which was a flop.
Pagal Nilavu is the biggest flop of MR. And music and box-office success have no substantial connection.
- From: Normal Man (@ 63.62.250.183)
on: Mon Jun 4 14:37:36 EDT 2001
Sridhar,
I have no intention of starting a nasty IR-ARR argument. But your postings are so baseless and senseless and it seems it will iginite one.
FYI Geethanjali was one of the grace savers for Nagarjna in Telugu and Idhayathai Thiridathe ran in Coimbatore for 200 days.
Pagal Nilavu was not a flop but Idhaya Kovil was. But the irony is these movies had great songs, esp Idhaya Kovil. Agni Nakshatram having great story. Give me a break dude. A very simple and ordinary story. But great camera work and music by IR saved the movie's fate. So better know the facts before you try to post something.
- From: Rajarasikan (@ 61.1.208.228)
on: Mon Jun 4 15:50:31 EDT 2001
Sridhar
Ithayathai thirudathae was a super hit in box office and the every seen is living with IR's BGM.
Idaya kovil songs are the top most best songs of ManiRathnam films till today.
I am sure?
- From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.30)
on: Mon Jun 4 16:15:21 EDT 2001
Sridhar
Did you forget to include mouna raagam, naayagan and anjali? They were the biggest flops among Mani's movies. Nobody knew about these movies.
- From: Athi (@ 24.182.219.105)
on: Mon Jun 4 22:27:54 EDT 2001
Doubter,
Looks like you are classifying all MR movies as flops. The truth is a majority of MR's
movies with ARR have flopped (TT, Iruvar,
Dil Se). I will not call Alai Payuthe a big
hit. After Bombay, they are yet to give
a big hit.
And Sridhar, you are trying to sound
neutral and unbiased but every posting
of you indicates how much biased you
are against IR. And the biggest joke is
saying Agni Naksthiram ran for story and
not for music.
MR's movies with IR
-------------------
Pagal Nilavu - Hit
Idaya Kovil - Flop (but had great music)
Mouna Raagam - Super Hit
Nayagan - Super Hit
Agni Nakshtram - Super Hit (Biggest reason
was music)
Idayathai Thirudathe - Hit
Anjali - Hit
Dalapathi - Average (but Cassettes
had record sales)
IR mentioned it in the movie's cassette
release.
Athi
- From: IR Fan (@ 4.54.221.0)
on: Mon Jun 4 22:39:33 EDT 2001
Pallavi Any Pallavi (Kannada) was a MR flop but songs are still classics in Karnataka
- From: IR Fan (@ 4.54.221.0)
on: Mon Jun 4 22:41:24 EDT 2001
Someone confirm was Idhaya Koil a flop. the songs the likes of which could not be heard for any other movie in TFM histry.
- From: sabesan (@ 64.163.212.196)
on: Mon Jun 4 23:17:46 EDT 2001
yes Idhaya Koil was a major flop.....
- From: sabesan (@ 64.163.212.196)
on: Mon Jun 4 23:18:42 EDT 2001
Athi - u took Doubter wrongly.... he was trying to be sarcastic.....
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Tue Jun 5 01:43:08 EDT 2001
doubter
oru puLLi oru comma(maelum keezhumaaga) - oru minus - oru shift+0 ivattrai neengaL saerththu irukkalaam...paarungaL Athi ungaLukku yedhiraaga kodhiththu vittaar :-)
- From: NagaS (@ 202.169.188.186)
on: Tue Jun 5 06:10:51 EDT 2001
Idhayakoil was a flop ?
I doubt it., Can anybody confirm.,
It had great music, Good Story ... what went wrong ?
(One kosuru seythi - in this movie, each paadalaasiriyar was given only one song (may be just for variety) - Vairamuthu (Naan Paadum Mauna Raagam), Gangai Amaran (uur Ooramaa), Ilayaraja (Idhayam Oru Koil), Vaali (Paattuth thalaivan ?), Mu. Metha (Yaar veettil Roja), Pavalar Varadharajan (Vaanuyarntha solaiyilae)
NagaS
- From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.30)
on: Tue Jun 5 11:38:38 EDT 2001
Kupps
:-))))). Satisfied?? :-)))))
NagaS
innoru kosuru seidhi. 'naan paadum mouna raagam' was Vairamuthu only song for Mani until Roja.
- From: prakash (@ 152.163.197.64)
on: Tue Jun 5 12:30:30 EDT 2001
nilaave vaa-was by VM
- From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.30)
on: Tue Jun 5 13:22:48 EDT 2001
Prakash
All songs in mouna raagam were by vaali
- From: Rajarasikan (@ 61.1.208.8)
on: Tue Jun 5 14:57:35 EDT 2001
Mouna ragam, Nayagan, Anjali are flops. Hey! what a good joke doubter.
Mouna ragam, Nayagan are Silver jubilee films. Anjali 100 days film and took some national awards.
Don't tell any info without clarification
- From: Shrini (@ 172.157.59.42)
on: Tue Jun 5 15:17:23 EDT 2001
Mouna raagam was critically successful but commercially a flop. In coimbatore, it ran exactly for one week.It barely managed to run 100 days in madras.
More people saw it on television rather than on main screen
- From: Pozhudhu pogadhavan (@ 12.92.215.95)
on: Tue Jun 5 16:04:10 EDT 2001
Shrini, thookkathila irundhu ezhundhu summa penatha koodadhu.
Mouna Raagam ran for 175 days in Madurai, Theater Name: Minipriya.
- From: yaaro (@ 205.188.195.32)
on: Tue Jun 5 18:40:14 EDT 2001
PP.
I am from coimbatore-shrini is correct.The movie was out of theatres in no time.After a few days the thiruttu videos came out-then the reviews.the movie never really ran in coimbatore.I remember seeing the movie in a grainy video.I have never seen it in theatre.
- From: Shrini (@ 172.173.100.148)
on: Tue Jun 5 20:34:47 EDT 2001
pozhudhu pogadhavane ippo yaaru penathrangannu theriyudha?.
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Wed Jun 6 01:02:54 EDT 2001
illa Shrini, i'm damn sure what pozhudhu says is correct. he is definitely not penathing.
i know that film ran very well in minipriya theatre. we can see the momento given to the theatre for the successful run.
might be that that film ran well in madurai-tiruchi-nellai area, failed in coimbatore area and faired ok in madras area.
- From: RAJARASIKAI (@ 62.7.101.194)
on: Wed Jun 6 02:36:35 EDT 2001
GUYS DOUBTER WAS BEING SARCASTIC BY SAYING ANJALI, MOUNA RAGAM AND NAYAGAN ARE FLOPS. PLEASE STOP TRYING TO PROVE THAT THEY ARE HITS WHICH WE ALL KNOW!
- From: NagaS (@ 202.169.188.186)
on: Wed Jun 6 03:04:00 EDT 2001
doubter,
Thanks for your info about VM's only song for MR till Roja - after Roja, he has penned all songs fo MR :-) He should be a happy man !
NagaS
- From: S (@ 64.104.128.15)
on: Wed Jun 6 04:56:52 EDT 2001
From trichy...Mouna Ragam ran quite well in trichy
- From: Sridhar (@ 210.214.118.59)
on: Wed Jun 6 06:14:54 EDT 2001
I dont understand you ppl. When I said that Iruvar and TT were two fo the best albums, somebody says that these two movies were big flops. But when I say that Ithaya Kovil was a flop, then ppl start saying that the songs are great. So, why is the logic for IR and diff. for ARR is my point?
- From: Sridhar (@ 210.214.118.59)
on: Wed Jun 6 06:15:04 EDT 2001
I dont understand you ppl. When I said that Iruvar and TT were two fo the best albums, somebody says that these two movies were big flops. But when I say that Ithaya Kovil was a flop, then ppl start saying that the songs are great. So, why is the logic diff. for IR and diff. for ARR is my point?
- From: mani (@ 203.127.196.27)
on: Wed Jun 6 07:23:18 EDT 2001
Before anyone could say that ARR-MR combination has given more flops, Doubter attacks IR-MR combination....may be he thinks "attack is the best form of defence"
- From: sabesan (@ 64.160.54.46)
on: Wed Jun 6 09:58:12 EDT 2001
Sridhar why is ur logic different ? when it comes to IR movie u just say MOVIE is a flop and when it comes to ARR's movie u say MUSIC is great ? just like that everyone compares the other way - so nothing wrong aint it ?
- From: S (@ 64.104.128.15)
on: Thu Jun 7 10:36:42 EDT 2001
The albums Iruvar did not show great results in
sales. May be that's the reason ppl call it a flop. But, IMVHO, TT & Iruvar (in the order mentioned) are the best works of arr till date...
- From: Yaaro (@ 63.126.121.2)
on: Thu Jun 7 11:13:52 EDT 2001
Sridhar,
When Pagal nilavu and Idaya Kovil came out, no one knew who MR was. Only after Mouna Ragam, he achieved his celebrity status. So from Mouna Ragam to Dhalapathy MR-IR combo was winning atleast to some level. They didn't have flops like TT, Iruvar and Dilse.
- From: Sridhar (@ 203.200.15.20)
on: Thu Jun 7 14:05:00 EDT 2001
Yaaro
So. Whats your point?
- From: the real yaaro (@ 64.12.105.42)
on: Thu Jun 7 16:49:20 EDT 2001
yaaro,
why are you hijacking my name-agreed ,yaaro is a non specific name.but I have been posting using that name for a long time.fortunately,both of us are IR fans.please avoid using that name-or call yourself yaaro II or something else.hope u take this posting in proper spirit.
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183)
on: Thu Jun 7 21:37:52 EDT 2001
yaaro & yaaro:
enna veladringala
- From: arvi (@ 137.166.201.104)
on: Thu Jun 7 22:58:22 EDT 2001
IR is a great composer, we should proud of him instead of making comment of him!!
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Fri Jun 8 00:08:53 EDT 2001
yaaro(real) yaar yaaro varanga posting panraanga neenga yean kavalai padureenga...mmmm ;-)
- From: Yaaro yevano crore rupah kekkuran (@ 4.54.221.6)
on: Fri Jun 8 01:38:38 EDT 2001
MR used to get IR for 50 lakhs, then he found ARR to cut costs got him for one or 2 lacks (sic) then ARR got bigger for his boots with a one or 2 croRs, then he decides to beat a different rhythm - Dum Dum Dum with KR for maybe 2 or 3 lakhs. that is how it works with MR-IR-ARR-KR-all Rs.
(Yaaro sir, no offense meant, but the paoint is... whaat?
- From: Vijay (@ 207.212.64.80)
on: Fri Jun 8 01:56:55 EDT 2001
I think you are wrong Yaaro Yevano ... ARR gets a meagre figure for MR films & that's what I heard.
- From: Vijay (@ 207.212.64.80)
on: Fri Jun 8 01:58:41 EDT 2001
Shridhar: In either of these cases the songs were excellent.
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