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New Releases by ARR??

Topic started by Srikanth (@ passport.proxy.lucent.com) on Mon Sep 15 10:23:15 EDT 1997.
All times in EDT +9:30 for IST.

Any new album by A. R. Rahman generates lot of buzz. Share some of it here. Review, discuss or comment on ARR's new albums.

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• From: Ramki (@ 64.244.43.3) on: Sat Aug 12 08:59:54 EDT 2000
  
  Its not fair to be blaming ARR alone here. we all know who started this trend of bringing Northies to TFM.
  I will never forgive IR for using kavitha krishnamurthy for 'muthirai eppodhum kuthida thappadhu' and 'nALdhorum endhan kannil' or Latha M for 'vaLayosai' or 'aararo'.
  He gave some of his best songs to Asha and till today i dont know why('nee partha parvaikku' is a best example of singers killing the song with their accent). 'enga ooru kadhalai pathi innaa ninaikkire' pattu kekkumpodhu vayiru eriyum.
  
  'isaiyil thodangudhamma'could have been much pleasing if it had been sung by a tamil literate singer.
  And last but not the least 'yamunai aatrile eera katrile' by Mithali. Please do not call this experimental(other than experimenting methods of killing tamizh).
  Preethi utham singh(kadhal vanile) and one sadhana sargam song for Devayani(song marandhupoch- but it was a village type song and i dont how sadhanas voice would have suited the situation ) are other disasters.
  
  Yuvan predonominantly uses sadhana sargam(most of the songs in pkp, velai) and karthik raja makes kavitha poudwal sing 'indha 'CHERUPPINAI' engu parthen'
  
  Till to date yuvan and karthik have not used chitra or SJ
  
  
  In this regard Deva and SAR are much better. THough their music is not original they atleast
  minimize the usage of non tamil singers.
  
  eNNikko vacha neruppu iNNikku pathikittu eriyudhu
  -result adhile Tamizhum serndhu erinjittirukku
  
  
• From: Neel (@ 206.83.87.218) on: Sat Aug 12 10:04:43 EDT 2000
  
  Ramki,
  Absolutely true. No disrespect to IR but he deserves to be blamed for sending home a whole generation of quality singers (TMS,PS,VJ,LRE) and for bringing in the exotic(?) singers. Especially these days his choice of singers are very bad. Hey Ram and Bharathi are examples. IR can compose great tunes and ruin those himself. Atleast ARR makes up for the bad singers with his hi-tech recording.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 194.149.80.1) on: Sat Aug 12 10:26:47 EDT 2000
  
  Ramki.,
  
  You are right and I agree with you except one point., IR started this. OK, But Why ARR Should CONTINUE it ?, That too to this extend ?
  
  Don't you see the problem ? Let us say Mr. X and Y are staying together. Mr. X bought TV and to watch cricket SOMETIMES., Now Mr. Y., got the habit from him, started watching Cricket whole day, spoil himself and then finally says Mr X is the reason. The obvious fact is, Mr. X had some control over himself, which Mr. Y didn't.
  
  Also, Don't tell me Deva and SAR are avoiding Udits and Sukhvinders. Deva-voda latest Albums keettup paarunga., Yaar paadaRaanga enna paadaRaangannee puriyaRathillai,
  
  Now, a few things in lighter sense ...
  
  If village songs won't fit Sadhana., What about 'Konchum MainaakkaLee' ? ;-)
  
  According to the movie, 'Enga ooru kaathalaip paththi' is sung by a girl who knows only a little bit of tamil., So antha araikuRai mazalai thevaip pattathu., I feel that is correct - Same case with Malgudi Subha in Naadodith thenDRal.
  
  'Indha CHERUPPINAI' is not by Kavitha., it is by Vibha Sharma. However, It doesn't make any difference, CHERUPPU is defenitely not SIRIPPU ;-)
  
  Yuvan has used Chitra for 2 songs in the movie 'KalyaaNa Galaattaa' (One of them, with Arunmozhi is my favourite :-)
  
  Neel., I don't think IR's selection of singers is bad in Bharathi. IMHO, All have done their job pretty well in that album. I don't see any Tamil kolai there., Opinions welcome.
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Nataraj (@ 210.212.255.20) on: Sat Aug 12 10:27:54 EDT 2000
  
  hey I heard the song of rahman his music is absolutely brilliant and heis the genius. His latest
  release rythym is superb.my name is nataraj.
  I am from nagetcoil.
  
  
• From: polamaadan arumugam (@ 210.212.255.20) on: Sat Aug 12 10:36:25 EDT 2000
  
  hei rahman is ulundhavadai music director.
  illayaraja is a rasavadai music director the
  competition is good to watch.
  my name is aacher arumugam
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 64.244.43.5) on: Sat Aug 12 11:08:28 EDT 2000
  
  Nagas:))Read my last statement again..I was neither supporting ARR nor blaming IR..i was just analyzing the root cause of this whole issue.
  
  Regarding 'enga ooru kadhalai pathi'..situationkku thevai pattudhunna englishle paadittu pottom edhukku enga tamizhe kolai pannanum. Namma thalaivi SJanaki pottirundhu innum konjam iyarkkaiya seiyarkkai tamizhle paadirppanga .
  
  appuram 'kalyana galatta'nnu oru padam vandhadhu is a news for me..probably we should add those songs in our rare collections:)
  
  
• From: Neel (@ 206.83.87.218) on: Sat Aug 12 12:17:43 EDT 2000
  
  NagaS, you are right. There is no thamizhkkolai in Bharathi like in Hey Ram but I would have preferred other singers though such as SPB for niRpathuvE, VJ for Ninnai, Swarnalatha for Bhava and BMK for RajkumarB.
  
  
• From: u no hu (@ 24.64.158.120) on: Sat Aug 12 12:39:07 EDT 2000
  
  Ramki :-)
  
  
• From: Bug (@ 216.71.84.142) on: Sat Aug 12 13:36:20 EDT 2000
  
  folks,
  I am getting confused here.
  Is the discussion going on to support
  to pure tamil culture or analyzing
  the innovativeness of ARR in bringing
  other singers. I repeat some of the
  songs which he did are really good.
  Some are not.
  
  As Ramki, said I don't understand why
  ARR gets so heavily subjected to criticism
  when you can get so many examples from other
  MD's. Like IR- Ramaranulum song..i forgot the
  singer's name. Athil pronounciation kolai
  ullathu.
  
  vijay, I agree with you on the point
  that the "bhavam" will be missing if you
  really don't understand the language.
  But how many songs are done with so much
  involvement in Bhavams?
  
  Neels,
  Neenga orey adiya..X-site'kkum ARR'kkum
  mudichu pottuteenga.:-)
  To me the whole film industry is a business.
  nobody is there to venture out to
  satisfy the tastes of the public or something.
  so when we do business we have to see that
  we make profit. What Deva does is deplorable.
  while what ARR does is business. He is
  trying to make a living for himself.He is
  giving what public wants. Isn't that
  the whole concept of tamil film industry?
  mogamul "dappa" padam endru aandavudan,
  are the other producers trying to follow
  the same trend to give in more pictures
  like that?
  On this regard, as a tamilian i think
  i have to be proud of his achievement as
  he had achieved some great heights wherein
  no other MD's have done.
  
  Bug
  
  
• From: rajaG (@ 38.27.83.196) on: Sun Aug 13 02:19:12 EDT 2000
  
  I feel it is absolutely unfair to accuse IR of the havoc wreaked by ARR in the name of introducing new (read it as northie) singers.
  
  1. The percent of songs which IR gave to northie singers is very very small.
  2. ARR's thamizh sucks big time and my guess is he doesn't know thamizh to correct other people's mistakes. By contrast, IR has NO mistakes in his pronunciation and in his peak has atleast tried to get the best pronunciation out of the singers (if extra effort was needed)
  3. As much as Mallu singers have mallu pronunciation they are infinitely better than any of the north singers in pronunciation and talent- yes talent. Remember, we are getting Asha and Lata when they are way past their retirement. The abaswarams by Lata (she murders all her songs in any language these days strictly on an equal opportunity basis) in Jiya Jaley, and the "no less" effort by Asha in Iruvar are both examples where pronunciation was just part of the problem. Udit is......sorry! I promised my mom not to use foul language. Compared to these singers KSC, Sujatha, and Swarnalatha are heaven-sent.
  4. vandhaarai vaazhavaikkum's flip side is "I don't have a spine, so walk all over me". It is the same attitude which lets us accept cheap products and bad service with an "I am an Indian customer, please abuse me" sign.
  5. ARR is introducing these bad singers purely for business reasons (a major part of it being sucking up to the deep pockets of northies). Sometimes I wonder whether his national/international fame is good. He has not made south Indian music/culture popular outside south India as much as a) making a south Indian (himself) popular and b) reducing his music to the lesser levels of the general Indian audience.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Bug (@ 216.71.84.142) on: Sun Aug 13 11:02:58 EDT 2000
  
  rajaG,
  DF'ers have taken that "vandharai issue"
  left and right.
  Neengaluma? :-)
  whether ARR's cheap product or not, he is the
  one signed up with Lloyd Webber, tuned in for
  Michael's concert, top paid MD in India, ...
  i don't see a point why ARR being a tamilian
  should be spreading tamilian culture alone
  through his music.Music has no bounds.
  He does whatever
  comes to him.(some flicked)What's wrong in him
  trying to lift himself to top even in
  international levels?
  
  Evalavu culture athu ethu endru sollum naaam,
  are the first persons to sit in US and earn
  our living. Where did our "naatru patru" go
  then?
  
  
  Bug
  
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 64.244.43.13) on: Sun Aug 13 11:11:21 EDT 2000
  
  Oru spoon endraalum oru bottle aanalum
  visham vishamthaan
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Sun Aug 13 12:31:10 EDT 2000
  
  RajaG, u have hit the nail on the head.
  
  IR might have brought in singers from the north, but those songs were few and far in between. How many albums of IR have we seen where the entire album has been dominated by northie singers as we are seeing now? in every ARR album atleast there are atleast a couple of songs that kill Tamil. ARR tried to differ from ARR in his composing style. he could have also tried to be a little different by not indiscriminately using northie singers.
  
  and finally, people are still listening with awe to compositions like shenbagame, valaiyosai etc.any of them are praising ARR now for using northie singers in tamil songs?
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.22.221) on: Sun Aug 13 12:33:05 EDT 2000
  
  read the line in my last post as "ARR tried to differ from IR"..
  
  
• From: Sundar (@ 208.128.224.205) on: Sun Aug 13 12:42:16 EDT 2000
  
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• From: sound (@ 64.24.38.57) on: Sun Aug 13 17:26:16 EDT 2000
  
  rajag,
  regarding singers,
  ir used his voice and asked his daughter to sing..
  any day that is big blunder that arr blunders
  
  arr has done many good things,
  like he raised the std of output, usage of instruments, he dared to use new singers some go bad what to do?,
  if you talk about negative points, any day IR gets more points than arr.
  
  I prefer to take postive pointes rather talking about negatives and only negatives.
  Accepted arr is uses bad singers, but still as of now his stds of music is far superior than anyone.
  
  

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