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IR's new albums!

Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
All times in EDT/EST +9:30/10:30 for IST.

A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.

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• From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5) on: Fri Jan 26 17:28:50 EST 2001
  
  kumudam said no song is good in Priya, except for darling darling song. funny, today none considers it as good song. I always feel kumudam tries to guess what people feel and write it as a review, rather than writing what they realy feel. Anyway I dont care even if they give a positive review.
  
  
• From: Padayappa (@ 171.70.67.37) on: Fri Jan 26 19:55:49 EST 2001
  
  Guys,
  
  Dont talk about Kumudam... they are jallara for J. Jeya. from this you can understand their quality. They are no.1 Idiot magazine circulated in TN.
  
  
• From: PRASAD (@ 24.189.124.91) on: Fri Jan 26 20:58:37 EST 2001
  
  Hi! vtv!
  Nobody is against Arulmozhi. Infact one feels sorry for his current state, for his services can be used in better places still. There is no second opinion that Arulmozhi, SPB, Mano - all IR favourites sound alike and there is no variety! That was the only point for discussion.
  
  >>Arulmozhi is free to serve in the place of his choice. If he decides for IR, then we should worry about it.
  
  >>Regarding usage of fresh voices, ARR should get a pat. But using fresh voices is not mandatory. In fact all other MD's of all ages used only then standard singers. The reason is, when the situation is explained to experienced singer even once, they will do more than what is required. Whereas with freshers, a lot of rehearsal is required. This does not go with IR pace of work, but is ideally suited for ARR pace.
  
  
• From: Subbiah (@ 62.253.64.4) on: Sat Jan 27 06:05:20 EST 2001
  
  Sukra : Alternate opinions are welcome. But please justify your point. Kindly educate us how and why IR's re-recording is inferior to other MD's ...
  
  vtv : I do not know what you gain by calling IR a bad man. I understand that your perception is based on the interviews in the media. To get to the fact, I would request you to kindly make an attempt to personally visit/talk to IR ... You would not repent the effort. How frequently do we happen to meet great people in life ?
  
  'Kuttraala aruviyin kulirchi TV-yil paarthaal puriyaathu... Arugil sendraalthan anbavikka mudiyum' IR talked in the meeting that I attended something like this... He mentioned about MSUdhayamurhthy (I think) - (more exact version : eppadi aruviyai nerungumpOthae manam kulirchi adaiyumO, adhupOl nalla manitharai anugumpOthum andha unvarvu varum)
  
  It is not very good to comment about someone's personality in a public forum unless you know clearly what he is.
  
  It is very easy to spoil one's image. Positive views are always difficult to culviate.
  
  
  
• From: prakash (@ 202.169.129.84) on: Sat Jan 27 09:12:47 EST 2001
  
  dear sukra,
  one was a homosexual-his first night attempts at conversion to hetero sexuality was so traumatic,he was divorced before you could say tchaikovsky.
  another was a womaniser-mozart.
  one died of syphilis-i think you know how one gets it.
  another one was so arrogant the entire orchestar resigned to go outside and form a seperate symphony orchestra-this was because their contract forbade individual resignations to join other orchestra-this was escape a tyrant calle bruch whose famous violin concerto was the top all tim favottites in last year ratings.
  another famous womaniser-vivaldi,the orange preist-he was in fact forbidden to enter venice because of this.
  another one seduced his brother's wife-and was also so arrogant-Beethoven.
  why pounce on IR?when someone of the calibre of balamurlalikrishna says that he considers iR as the composer of the century,you dony take that lightly.
  so,sukra,think before you type.and once again think before ypu click that post button.
  
  
• From: prakash (@ 202.169.129.84) on: Sat Jan 27 09:14:30 EST 2001
  
  the one who had syphilis was schubert.sorry for mising that piece of info
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sat Jan 27 10:33:57 EST 2001
  
  Speaking of western composers, I'd like to bring a comparison between Mozart and IR....Mozart was also extremely prodigious in his compositions..he composed 100s of pieces quickly...all were considered great melodies....
  
  Beethoven on the other hand due to his increasing deafness had to rely more and more on his imagination...this was actually an advantage as he could visualize an unconditioned ensemble of sounds...and though he composed a few symphonies and concertos and pieces...some of them are considered the greatest works in western classical music...ARR works somewhat like Beethoven...refining and fine-tuning his product until he is satisfied - the mark of an advertising man...
  
  Don't mistake me...IR is a genius and his works will rank among the greatest in Tamil and Indian music......ARR has the advantage of age as well as the advantage of living in a era of technological change that has opened up new avenues in music creation.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sat Jan 27 10:37:30 EST 2001
  
  Add International music to "IR is a genius and his works will rank among the greatest in Tamil and Indian music.."
  
  
• From: fliflo (@ 130.203.161.68) on: Sat Jan 27 12:00:18 EST 2001
  
  ARR works somewhat like Beethoven
  
  Acho..Acho..Paalapochu. Hear to Beethoven first. You're over-imagining things. ARR's like music, and much better songs are available in US and Europe from 1960's. I would say he translated them and gave it to us. Cosmiscian, by giving praise to IR you no way qualify to overpraise ARR...You tell you like ARR. Don't try to compare him with BIG people. ARR's name is not known beyond a set of Indians..that too only his fans...I know you start scolding me and IR..Don't bring IR in this discussion..at the same time...don't over imagine. I can not tolerate this piec of ****
  
  
  
  
• From: prakash (@ 202.169.129.84) on: Sat Jan 27 12:33:58 EST 2001
  
  you have a point when you compared beethoven with Arr-beethoven took almost 5-6 yrs to complete tthe fifth symphony.one was almost 14 years in making.there ends and sholuld end the comparision.he is my favorite wcm composer-please dont insult him by comparing him with arr,for heaven's sake.
  
  
• From: Me too Offended (@ 65.5.96.125) on: Sat Jan 27 13:38:52 EST 2001
  
  ARR is my favourite Indian Composer and please dont insult him by comparing him with beethoven.
  
  
• From: Subbiah (@ 62.252.192.4) on: Sat Jan 27 13:45:25 EST 2001
  
  prakash - thanks for all the info. on wcm composers.
  
  cosmician - your comparison was interesting... but do not loose heart... try some more...
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.165.184) on: Sat Jan 27 14:43:03 EST 2001
  
  Box office hits on Jan 28th
  
  http://www.sysindia.com/tamil/cine/box/jan282k1.htm
  
  Movies:
  
  Friends
  Dheena
  Vaanchinathan
  
  Audio:
  
  Friends
  Dheena
  Ennavale
  
  (Vaanchinathan Oothikichchu)
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.165.184) on: Sat Jan 27 14:46:41 EST 2001
  
  Read this one too:
  http://www.sysindia.com/tamil/cine/jan282k1/index.htm
  
  
• From: SM (@ 63.101.96.1) on: Sat Jan 27 20:00:32 EST 2001
  
  I'm surprised as to how some people are tolerating the comparison of IR, the great, with a lesser known composer named Mozart:-) I don't know what yardstick you used to call the comparison between ARR and Beethoven is silly (Just for the record, I too think that comparing a music director who has a long way to go even before he can be considered as an icon in Indian film music with a world class composer doesn't seem to be right). But, can any one of you please clarify how comparing IR with Mozart is not silly? Before you brand me as a HCARRF, let me clarify that this is just a honest question and not to belittle IR or his achievements. Some person has posted that ARR is not known beyond a set of Indians who happen to be his fans. How many people know IR? Is there any survey that proves that the no. of IR fans is this many times more than the no. of ARR fans or equal to the no. of Mozart fans. IMO, IR also has a long way to go before he can be compared with Mozart.
  
  
• From: prakash (@ 202.169.129.84) on: Sat Jan 27 22:25:55 EST 2001
  
  SM,there are a few reasons why we dont cringe when we compare IR with any WCM composers.
  all said and done,he did compose a symphony-which has not seen the light of the day not due to lack of quality,but due to other problems.when the chapwho conducted the symphony himself is happy witn it,i dont think we need to worry about it.these people have seen enough to ecognise good music when they see one.
  i was listening to classic fm programme when they were discussing about composing a symphony-one statement which struck me was-imagine the stamina a person must have to compose a symphony(mental ).IR has it in ample quantity.that is why i am a bit hesitant to even consider someone like ARR that he can compose something which should run into a minimum of 45-60 minutes.we all hear about his struggle and repolishing of a 4-5 minute song so much-it has now become a virtue rather than a nuisance!
  another reason is he has proved his mettle in WCM in his BGM and interludes.there is a thread called TFM technical-please browse thru the entire thread-it will give you lot of info about WCM and IR's competence in this genre of music.
  He is the only reason for me developing an interest in WCM-he opened an entire new world for and i can categorically state that he has never disappointed me in his bgm's and intrludes when compared with the western greats.
  another reason is his style of composing-he writes music rather than play it on harmonium-this can be done only by a complete musician.
  nothing but wind and HTNI-2 more reasons.
  you can write all you want about arr's music-but this is the first time i have seen someone comparing him to a wCM-that too the giant among them all-Beethoven!give us a break chaps.
  IR may not be a mozart orbeethoven-but he is the nearest we have.
  I think i have given you enough reasons why IR's fans are not embarassed when comparing him to WCM greats.compare ARR to someone like MJ or robbie williams.we dont mind -all of us will be happy!
  
  
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.162.246) on: Sat Jan 27 23:53:43 EST 2001
  
  It is Cosmiscian who compared IR with mozart and ARR with Beethoven. None other did that. You must ask him about how he scaled that manner. His reason for comparing IR with Mozart is to make himself safe to compare ARR with Beethoven. You guys yourself know which one is logical and more appropriate.
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.162.246) on: Sat Jan 27 23:56:10 EST 2001
  
  prakash...your posting is so nice to read...i like that flow and usage of words.
  
  

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