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Topic started by RAJAN (@ proxy-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net) on Thu Jan 22 22:20:06 EST 1998.
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A new Ilayaraja album is a cause for celebration with many among us. Let everyone share in the revelry. Review, discuss or comment on new IR albums.

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• From: IsaiAnban (@ 63.215.157.1) on: Sat May 26 02:39:44 EDT 2001
  
  
  Hello folks, In our urge to defend our icons, let us not forget some facts. Ilaiyaraja( I don't kinda like IR, anyway), was a TRENDSETTER , someone who broke away from a Pattern, and established New Milestones and went up furhter, and in the process, he gave an Intimate and Personal Feeling thro his Music, u may want to call it a "Time Warp", or somethin' like that, But he definitely walked like a Titan in Tamil Music, and he now is a legend on his own right, and an Icon of tamil people,our way of life, music and culture.
  Regarding his choice of Bad films, probably,he's doing it for his friends, or people who simply perster himeto do work for them; Without a Good storyline, nobody can give soulful
  music;
  But Isaignani Ilaiyaraja Deserves a Lot of Respect for what he has done to the Tamil Music, and he has always given a Personal Feel;
  I'm not saying that Rahman does not do that; But he gotta go a LOOOONG way , before he could do that.
  " Music, the Life-Giver" - Remember that Johnny!
  
  
• From: vem (@ 129.186.205.51) on: Sat May 26 11:54:14 EDT 2001
  
  Hi
  Johny is/was great - but his present day albums do not reveal even that 1% of class he had during his regime. We r not expecting anything of the same class as Johny/Priya/Guru/Sigappu Rojakkal.
  Atleast of the class of Pandiyan/Devathai.....
  
  
• From: PRASAD (@ 24.184.9.54) on: Sun May 27 10:51:22 EDT 2001
  
  Hi! Guys!
  There always has been a discussion as why IR cannot bounce back to his old form.
  
  Well I am giving my opinion which I believe to be true. When he was rising upto the peak, and when he was in peak, he use to work with all good directors. So he got the situations, encouragement and inspiration to give very good songs and music. At that time also he was giving score to some lousy movies, but yet his work was good in all of them(Ramarajan movies etc.) as he was having a pep he was working with the best(I mean parallely he was working with Mani Ratnam, Balachandar, K.viswanath etc) and he was the best.
  
  This encouragement is very important(apart from talent) for any artist to shine. Incidentally this is what ARR gets presently. Also if you look at it, IR has earned it in a hard way when he rised to peak whereas ARR got it at first stroke as he was lucky.
  
  What I meant by saying IR has earned it in hardway is, for example, his music was instrument for ManiRatnam's growth, but when Mani Ratnam really matured and was about give a matured movie like Roja, chance went to ARR. The theme of the movie was such that it has to have national recognition. Ofcourse ARR did very well on that.
  
  So considering all these things, unless he gets a good opportunity(which has less money barriers, which gives a opportunity to work with good technicians, good story line with good scope of music), he cannot bounce back. This is exactly happening to him.
  
  For a musicians who has reached his stature, they should reduce their work and concentrate on qualtiy works. I don't know why he accepts movies which is obviously below par.
  
  Again if you hear music of Hey Ram, it was a lot fresh. Unfortunately, inspite of getting a good review and doing good work, his work was not appreciated as the movie is a utter flop. He was also inspired in working in Bharathi and Pandavas. Again these movies gave him recognition in intellectuals circle, but did not give mob appeal. I feel because of Hey Ram, he got the work to do background score for Lajja(RajKumar Santhoshi).
  
  If somebody like Subhash Ghai approach IR, then we should see his work. I am sure he will give songs that we will hum for a long time.
  
  So let us wait and stop debating about this.
  
  
  PRASAD
  
  
• From: Sat (@ 129.186.205.55) on: Sun May 27 12:43:36 EDT 2001
  
  sorry for digression - Had a chance to see "Dum Dum Dum" Two songs are superb !!!! The movie was OK (with lot of artificial flavor in the movie).
  Watched another movie "Bhadri" --- all time crap movie and the music by some ramana Gokula was nothing but noise.
  
  
• From: IR Fan (@ 209.244.65.177) on: Sun May 27 13:57:06 EDT 2001
  
  Prasad, that is good observation. But, energy levels of IR is also down. A new generation of listeners have come favoring different music idols. IR has been in the market for 25 years and he is no working with totally different people with totally modern values. Why should IR care? He is one generation past. It is his sons KR and YSR who now have the pulse of the mob and they are also producing entirely different music from that of IR right from the beginning.
  
  It is very wrong of us to expect IR to do a Kadhulukku Mariyadhai again. What he must do now is take advantage of the support of his old fans and musicians and produce (with his own money) music for his own personal satisfaction. Moods of Illaiyaraja is a good move in that direction. IR can also think laterally or critically at his own music and produce something 180 degrees different. What IR has done so far is: not think critically and radically like you see music in ARR. How is music when your own rhythm is slowed down? How is music as in a Musical. Can I create a song with a dramatic melody and rhythm at the end of the pallavi rather than at the beginning of the pallavi.
  
  There is no doubt that there is no greater composer than IR for the effective dramatic use of a variety of instruments and wide range of melodies. But, IR did not focus on variation of the form, structure, pace and non-folk emphasis of his music. But, we understand pre-1990 was pre-cable days and pre-internet era meaning we we were still looking for folk melodies!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Krishna (@ 12.90.10.174) on: Sun May 27 22:23:19 EDT 2001
  
  I want to register my opinions about 'Aaandan Adimai" which I recently bought from H&M Enterprises.
  
  Three out of five songs are great. The best is "Undhan Rajyathil", a soul stirring song. This song exemplifies for me why IR is a class above the rest. The song is set to western classical, great orchestration and a great tune. IR's mastery in composing is seen in the subtle shifts in the tune especially during the lines he renders in the song. IR has rendered the song marvellously. The song is haunting.
  
  The second best song is "ennenna paada paduthura' sung by Bhavtharini. Beautifully composed and orchestrated. Bhavtha has sung the song very well. The last two lines at the beginning of the song, which is repeated only may be twice inte whole song, which is similar to "Vetti Madichukattu" from Japanil Kalyanaraman. But the rest of the song is entirely different and fresh.
  
  "Anne Anne Karuppane" sung by Shankar Mahadevan is a fast rythmic song. The lyrics are very folksy but I like this song. The tune is very good.
  
  The rest of the songs are very typical TN village folksy type songs. I liked the Mathava song.
  
  Contrary to the opinions expressed here, "Aandan Adimai" represents to me that IR still produces great music - some of his numbers like "Undhan Rajyathil" to me are reminders why to me he is always a class above the rest.
  
  
• From: nvd (@ 161.142.100.85) on: Sun May 27 23:14:40 EDT 2001
  
  People are praising Deva for his 'Uyire uyire' song in Uyirileh Kalanthatu. But do they know that it (the pallavi) is an absolute xerox of 'Tuh jeh ' (hindi song)! This may be an old news for us but the general public wouldn't know, for god sake.
  
  Therefore, i will not undervalue AA, comparatively!
  
  
  
• From: PRASAD (@ 206.102.161.11) on: Wed May 30 11:37:19 EDT 2001
  
  Hi!
  
  Deva to score for a hindi movie (*s Hrithik Roshan. Dir: Rajkumar Santoshi.). Look for Hrithik dancing to a 'gana' number by Sabesh :-). (Deva has already done the BGM for "Chachi 420", the hindi verson of Avvai Shanmugi. But the songs were done by Vishal.)
  
  Is this the same movie Lajja for which IR had done BGM? If so what a fate! This is the news from front page of tfmpage.com
  
  
• From: S (@ 64.104.128.15) on: Wed May 30 12:11:46 EDT 2001
  
  prasad,
  lajja doesn't have hrithik. it's apparently a heroine oriented subject. Has madhuri as the protagonist.
  
  
• From: KS (@ 165.122.129.102) on: Wed May 30 12:52:38 EDT 2001
  
  Manisha Koirala is the lead in Lajja.
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 64.163.215.56) on: Wed May 30 20:49:46 EDT 2001
  
  just listened to "Aandaan Adimaai" songs from Raaga site..... wow.... i never expected good songs at all.... but, 2 are really really good - "Undhan Raajiathil" and "Ennene paaada paduthura" are real good one's.... reminds me of the old IR..... the rest, may be i will like it after i hear 2-3 times..... whoever want to comment that IR is not giving what he used to give before, pls do listen to these 2 songs and then give ur opinion....
  
  one good thing - Bhava seems to have improved - she is not singing in her Mooku :-)... in fact she has done a good job in the "Ennene Paada" song....
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 64.163.215.56) on: Wed May 30 20:53:54 EDT 2001
  
  but one thing.... these 2 songs will go unnoticed as usual..... i remember many movies - Anthapuram, Nilavve Mugam Kaatu and many others - thought they had very good songs, many never knew about those albums..... Aaandaan Adimaai will be one more like that..... IR's luck :-)
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 64.220.209.210) on: Wed May 30 21:55:54 EDT 2001
  
  To me, there's no point in repeating the streotypic question of why he's not producing good music nowadays? This is too tiresome. See, IR is like ocean. The film makers are like fisherman. If u really want to take a good catch of fishes, u have to work for it. There's no point in blaming the sea for not giving it. U have to make him work more to produce good tunes. Despite of this, not really his songs are bad. Evevn his latest AA is good. The folk songs are targeted towards the village people and of course there's nothing wrong in giving such songs. A good musician is who gives tune that fits the situation and i hope IR had done a neat job of it. Dont complain just like that the songs are worthless. What u can expect for a folk song, Drum Beats, Superb violin concerts etc??!! Dont be crazy! I rate AA as a good album.
  Reg his present work and making a comparision of his earlier ones, It's just comparing sivaji's act in Veerapandiya kattabomman and movie like Sangili. It doesn't mean that sivaji is not an able actor. Likewise IR too.....
  
  
• From: kk (@ 64.12.105.137) on: Wed May 30 23:28:40 EDT 2001
  
  About Andan adimai, I dont understand manivanan.
  There is not even a single love duet or a usual love song. Even a movie like, Unnal mudiyum thambi had love a song. All the songs has some kind of social themes. Looks like this might be a kadavul kind of film.
  
  

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